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So I'm sitting here with my coffee looking at the cover of the latest Advocate, which mentions the hate crimes law and what the LGBT community may want added to it.

Here's my question, and maybe I'm super naive, but other than a crime of passion (maybe) you don't kill somebody because you really really like them.

I hate clowns. If I go out to a bar and meet somebody, and a little while later he tells me he's a clown, and I kill him (just follow along here), isn't that a hate crime? I killed him not because I didn't like his face, but because he's a clown and I hate clowns.

Should we put clowns on the hate crimes law? Will it make all the other clowns feel safer?

Serial killers who used to have blonde mothers and now go around killing blondes. Let's put blondes on the hate crimes law.

I don't know, it just seems strange that we should have to single somebody out, not for special protection, but for special punishment of whomever kills that person.

If I get over that guy being a clown, but later on he pisses on my cornflakes and I kill him for that, does that make me any less a murderer? Should I be punished less because it was him I hated and not clowns in general? Or will people look at the hate crimes list and say 'oh wait, clowns are special, so this guy killed the clown because he's a clownophobe' and punish me accordingly?

I must be missing something here.

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alanajoli
Jan. 9th, 2009 06:35 pm (UTC)
I think the idea behind defining a crime as a hate crime was to punish the motive as well as the crime. The idea is to discourage the "isms"--if you grow up knowing that the government is harder on people who kill clowns than people who kill their SOs in a blaze of passion or kill someone during a robbery, then you get the idea that killing clowns because they're clowns is somehow wrong. It's like subliminal attacks against anti-clown thoughts and feelings. I don't know if it works, though.
elven_wolf
Jan. 9th, 2009 10:19 pm (UTC)
That's the only reasoning I can think of. I'd be interested in seeing whether that's actually worked, though it'd be hard to quantify how much of that is because of hate crimes legislation, and how much because people are generally getting over things like people being gay. Or being clowns. No, I'm still not over clowns. ;)
megsjedi
Jan. 10th, 2009 03:13 am (UTC)
I don't like clowns either.

Tailoring a punishment to fit a crime is a good idea, but it seldom works, since the punishments are never enough to deter people. Even if you castrate a rapist, it doesn't change who they are on the inside. They'll still have the sick desires.

And I adore your icon, luv.
elven_wolf
Jan. 10th, 2009 11:13 pm (UTC)
The guy on the left looks like he has horns in your icon. LOL
megsjedi
Jan. 11th, 2009 01:51 am (UTC)
I think it's a tree branch. lol. Yeah, Jenny looks funny.
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